Various Armoured Railcars - Mad Metro

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Jerome West
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I stumbled onto these three train units straight out of the Mad Max movie. They were in a rolling stock shed behind the training centre. I asked around and was told they from the 70s and are still working. The same person said that they were last used in 2004. How true that is, I don’t know.
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This one looks like a version of a Casspir, land mine protected vehicle, just plopped onto a set rail wheels.
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Can anyone shed some more light on these units?
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Post by Kevin Wilson-Smith »

What a splendid sets of pics. Top scoop for 2009!

Really impressed as I like oddities like this!

The "Casspir" (and I am only guessing) was maybe used to patriol lines?

The Second shot looks like a Sankey, but it also looks like it has armour and armoured windows. Was that so in the flesh?
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Ha! those are amazing, they remind me of something created from somebodies doodles. "Hmm.. if I put a Caspir on rails.. what would it look like?"
Which shed are they in?
Not quite on the rails.
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very interesting pictures
went and googled for a Casspir on the rails and found this image on www.sa-transport.co.za
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So it must have been used during the bush war in Angola
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The units were in the shed between Braamfontein Station and the Training Centre which is south east of the station. The Funkey looked like it was made from thick steel plates and even had a chip in the bullet proof glass on the left which you can see in IMG_1739.
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I can only guess that the last photo of the plinthed vehicle in Windhoek was used up to Tsumeb to patrol the line. My cousin was in the BSAP in Rhodesia during the war and they patrolled the line from Bulawayo to Plum Tree in a Land Rover that could go on the line and on road.
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The armoured vehicles that run on the rails fascinate me!

Here is a pic on this forum of a Land Rover so converted in the UK. I have pic also of one converted thus in Kenya for use during the Emergency.

http://www.friendsoftherail.com/phpBB2/ ... over#p9237

North of the border I travelled a few times around Rutenga Junction using an armored rail vehicle - very top heavy and unstable at speed! An Ojay - based on a Kudu armored vehicle.

The museum at Bulawayo also had a couple of examples of other armored rail vehicles.

Stefan - your mention of armored Land Rover there could do both rail and road is very interesting as I never such a vehicle or heard of one in Rhodesia, at that time. The conversions were all straight rail conversions (with kits) and could only be reverted to road by reversing the conversion - which had to be done at workshops.

This would mean that the vehicle you refer to is unique and certainly generally unknown. I can find also no reference of such a vehicle used by the BSAP or INTAF or Guard Force or RR, or any of my other records, and I have also called a couple of other people with the same negative results.

Does your cousin have further details and photos? If so I would like to contact him off line so we can record the info historically before it is lost (I am also assisting with a new publication re this era).
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There's a few pictures of armoured cars converted to run on the railway in the Dutch East Indies here - scroll down the page past the road vehicles.
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Looking at this thread again, I wonder if the first two photos of the "square" vehicle are a modified Wickham? It looks a little big, but I am not a Wickham expert!

Any thoughts on this?

See here for an update on the Metro machines from Jerome...

http://www.friendsoftherail.com/phpBB2/ ... 328&t=7260
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