Driver training unit

John Ashworth · Post by **John Ashworth** » 03 Mar 2008, 11:32

Driver training for route knowledge is undertaken by using an electric unit and a motor coach set. The aspiring drivers are seated in the motor coach with direct driving control linked to the unit. They travel the system and learn train control and the route.

Photo by Hennie Heymans 05/11/2004

Luca Lategan · Post by **Luca Lategan** » 30 Mar 2008, 21:33

Am I mistaking myself or is this of the old "side door" type EMU coaches?

Kevin Wilson-Smith · Post by **Kevin Wilson-Smith** » 31 Mar 2008, 07:42

Luca - well spotted. Maybe - someone more experienced please confirm....

carldasnevesvieira · Post by **carldasnevesvieira** » 31 Mar 2009, 14:36

Hi to you all

There is a picture of it on the site ----see link below.

http://www.bwring.net/rail/sar/capital_ ... 0x750.html

Best Regards
Carlos

Geoff Pethick · Post by **Geoff Pethick** » 02 Apr 2009, 08:40

Hi all
It was originally 9222, type U-37-CM, imported from the UK, entered service in May 1937. In February 1981, it was converted and renumbered 15071. At the opposite end to the large windows you can make out the panelled over drivers door window.
Regards
Geoff Pethick

Luca Lategan · Post by **Luca Lategan** » 26 May 2010, 17:07

How wonderful is our wonder ful railways in South Africa not? 5 years on and this is how she looks... FOTR a nice, stripped 4M trailer???
All images taken from here (images 120-122)

: Standing in a yard at Witbank, part of a 1 million kg scrap auction...; coach.jpg (74.83 KiB) Viewed 8593 times

: Standing in a yard at Witbank, part of a 1 million kg scrap auction...; coach2.jpg (40.3 KiB) Viewed 8593 times

: Standing in a yard at Witbank, part of a 1 million kg scrap auction...; coach3.jpg (62.56 KiB) Viewed 8593 times

Luca Lategan · Post by **Luca Lategan** » 26 May 2010, 17:31

Incidentally I now notice that the coach must be standing in what was once part of the Witbank loco shed as one can clearly see watering towers above the coach.

Steve Appleton · Post by **Steve Appleton** » 26 May 2010, 17:50

I see that 8 of the old Metroblitz coaches numbered in the series 50000 located at Koedoespoort are also part of this scrap auction.

peterbagshawe · Post by **peterbagshawe** » 26 May 2010, 21:22

Hi All,

It is suggested in previous posts that this is a 4M trailer. According to John Middleton's "Railways of Southern Africa Locomotive Guide" the 4Ms date from 1955, whilst Geoff Pethick, on this forum, states it was originally a type U-37-CM dating from 1937 (motor or trailer car?). I'm afraid I know very little about SAR emus, but datewise (according to Middleton) it could be a 2M1. Middleton also states that 4M2 motor coach 15070 (service number, not 15071 note) was preserved at Capital Park shed. Can Geoff or anyone clarify the situation please?

Regards
Peter Bagshawe

John Ashworth · Post by **John Ashworth** » 26 May 2010, 22:12

Peter, welcome to the forum - your first post I believe.

FOTR is taking care of electric motor coach 15070. It has been moved from Capital Park to our new site at Hermanstad (Hercules). See pictures here.

Sue Lawrence · Post by **Sue Lawrence** » 26 May 2010, 22:44

Dear Peter and others,

Coach 15071 (driver training unit) was originally coach composite motor coach 9222 of type U-37-C delivered 1937-1939 (imported) and classified 2-M-1. These were historic as they were part of the first large order of motor coaches for the Reef's electrification, comprising: 9037-9071 (L-34-M), 9211-9241 and 9243-9248 (U-37-M), 9269-9270 (V-43-CM), 9350-9394 (S-33-M). L were 1st class, U were 1st, 2nd class and brake, V were 1st, 2nd, 3rd class and brake, while S were 3rd class.
Each had 4 x 237 hp motors and a total motor rating of 1148 hp. Gear rating was 19/65; maximum safe speed of 65 mph, tractive force, 1hr/ff 11,440 lbs.

Interesting question: I believe that the Edutrain, the Cape's driver training unit has now been withdrawn, these have been withdrawn, Natal (??) - so how are they now training their new drivers?

peterbagshawe · Post by **peterbagshawe** » 26 May 2010, 23:23

Hi All,

Thanks to John & Sue for your replies. It is now properly identified.

Regards
Peter Bagshawe

John Ashworth · Post by **John Ashworth** » 27 May 2010, 06:34

Thanks, Sue, for your detailed response. It's great to see you on the FOTR forum again.

Sue Lawrence · Post by **Sue Lawrence** » 27 May 2010, 06:46

Thanks John. I wonder if there is any chance of one of the groups tendering for it? Or even Rovos? It does have historical merit, and as a single double-ended unit would make a wonderful and quite unique vehicle for short trips where patronage might not be too high, and it would help to keep alive the group's presence. I don't know what state it really is in, but it doesn't look as though it is totally beyond repair. If I were there I would be strongly supporting it.

Cheers

Sue

Luca Lategan · Post by **Luca Lategan** » 27 May 2010, 16:47

The nice big windows (holes) at the one end would make a nice lounge/bar coach

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